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Hidden Snake
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Posted - 2013.02.09 07:52:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:You seem to forget that main idea of FW is not to PVP it is to grind isk, CCP somehow imagine that people who grind isk wants to PVP in plexes.
FW will never work, grind isk it is.
it is funny ... that when the farming horde was on minnie, galente side nobody was complaining (from frog side). Now when the farmer horde is slowly migrating increasing amount of complaints emerge. And yes system is broken and I have two alts to farm to make isk and capture systems.  |

Hidden Snake
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:16:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Hidden Snake wrote:it is funny ... that when the farming horde was on minnie, galente side nobody was complaining (from frog side). Now when the farmer horde is slowly migrating increasing amount of complaints emerge. And yes system is broken and I have two alts to farm to make isk and capture systems.  That's what you get when dealing with noob-whiners. We select few pro-whiners have been complaining about the wallet-shift in FW focus since the get go!  As for the OP: Cloaks are a non-issue, comparable to the generic farmer (stabbed or not) who continually runs. The problem is that they are dictating just about everything in FW through their actions .. thank CCP for tying everything into the plexing mechanic while at the same time making it farm friendly. Time-to-kill for the rats to prevent further spawns should be drastically reduced, provided the goal remains the same, to encourage bringing an appropriate ship. Novice - 30s Small - 45s Medium - 60s Large - 90s Daredevils will flood the skies, but I'd rather have ships that scream "come at me bro!" doing the farming, yielding a noticeable ISK loss when caught, than 'insert generic T1 frig' doing the same at no risk whatsoever. But nothing so "major" is likely to happen until next year as it is null's time be blessed by Icelandic tunnel-vision .. nine months of FarmVilleGäó plus what will be twelve months of FarmWarsGäó .. me'thinks CCP will owe us big time!
well i decided to exploit the system and enjoy my pirate habbits ... and still remain influental to Caldari FW and keep contact with FA bros ... best of all worlds :) |

Hidden Snake
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Posted - 2013.02.11 12:03:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Cearain wrote:Hidden Snake wrote:
well i decided to exploit the system and enjoy my pirate habbits ... and still remain influental to Caldari FW and keep contact with FA bros ... best of all worlds :)
This is where I am at as well. For pvp fw just reduces your pvp opportunities by reducing your ability to dock/reship and limitting your targets in plexes. FW does offer lots and lots of pve/farming opportunities to anyone who has an alt over 2 days old. CCP decided to make it a pve game. Might as well take advantage of it. The gallente and minmatar pretty much blew their lead, so farming amarr/caldari makes the most sense for several reasons. do not blaim CCP only, CCP listened players and changed it just like players wanted. Sad thing is that players do not know what they were asking because whole system is so complex that there is not many who can understand what little changes affect as whole. Well they listened to certain players. Others were ignored. But yes, we have the farmville we do now due to the players ccp chose to listen to. well it is funny that people who wanted farmhorde are now bitching about farmhorde because the beast turned on them with the system capture. Oh yeah, we told you!
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Hidden Snake
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Posted - 2013.02.12 09:04:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:chatgris wrote:
The solution suggested, which is in CCPs backlog, is that if no-one is running a button, it counts down to its starting state. This way, if a farmer is chased out of a plex, and a pvper keeps chasing a farmers, the farmers work is undone while the pvper is trying to get a kill. This makes a pvper who is willing to fight for a plex, and chase farmers out of plexes have more influence of the sov war than a stabbed farmer.
Fear not.. I'm sure now that Caldari is getting a bit better foothold on the Sov War, CCP will surely rush out a patch to help you guys out with that roll back timer thing.
well i am expecting more ... OMS and Prism has fallen ... I guess some people in CCP are ringing bells of fastforward ;) |

Hidden Snake
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Posted - 2013.02.12 13:11:00 -
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In the name of forum banned friend Damar:
Quote: Damar Rocarion
Well, they nerfed Caldari NPC's long time ago without saying anything and gave you the ninja patch which was the only reason you had a shot at your medal. You've not seen CCP to fast forward nullsec sovereignty mechanics have you?
Ninja patch was unprecedented interference to an ongoing war in history of Eve and was aimed directly at Caldari militias strategy to keep systems vulnerable for as long as possible so majority of the FW area would been theirs after the designated patch day. Which by the way was revealed long time in advance and both sides had time to maneuver themselves into optimal positions.
Yet CCP said in dev blog that people who worked hard to get their side to optimal position under the mechanics they created was unacceptable so ninja patch happened. We of course know this only applied because pendelum was being succesfully timed for Caldari's benefit and it was simply unacceptable for Devs playing for the gallente side to let this thing come to pass.
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Hidden Snake
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Posted - 2013.02.13 22:48:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Hidden Snake wrote:Mutnin wrote:chatgris wrote:
The solution suggested, which is in CCPs backlog, is that if no-one is running a button, it counts down to its starting state. This way, if a farmer is chased out of a plex, and a pvper keeps chasing a farmers, the farmers work is undone while the pvper is trying to get a kill. This makes a pvper who is willing to fight for a plex, and chase farmers out of plexes have more influence of the sov war than a stabbed farmer.
Fear not.. I'm sure now that Caldari is getting a bit better foothold on the Sov War, CCP will surely rush out a patch to help you guys out with that roll back timer thing. well i am expecting more ... OMS and Prism has fallen ... I guess some people in CCP are ringing bells of fastforward ;) You know, when you guys were losing and complaining that the system was biased and there was no chance to come back because of the Gallente farming dominance, I thought you guys were just sore losers. Now that you're winning under the exact same mechanics, and you are STILL WHINING, I think you guys just like to whine :) EDIT: Oh, I see why you're still complaining - even though you have more systems, you're getting spanked in kills. Yesterday: 270/460 Last week: 2125/3340 Carry on the complaining then :)
well not whinning ... pointing to facts ... and yes I still believe system is broken. PVE drives the the sov mechanics and it is badly damaged by stupid tier system. Farm horde is just migrating to side which has some advantage. Ofc I will exploit the system to prove CCP Fozzie is complete fool.
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Hidden Snake
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Posted - 2013.02.14 05:34:00 -
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chatgris wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:Caldari and Amarr mentioned these problems months ago. But we were just 'making it up' and 'whingers'. Now that the shoe is on the other foot - I hope it fits.  The lols Caldari are getting from watching the whole situation reversed is worth it. But don't worry - CCP are gonna 'save you' when the patch comes. There was a suspicious/hint tweet a day or two ago that suggests Caldari will be stopped with a patch. Few questions a) Gallente are whining about the system? I'm arguing with Cearin that the current system is GOOD, even though we're losing b) What tweet? Source pls!
ad a) u r quite an exception .... if i can read also gallente chats ingame well ;) |

Hidden Snake
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Posted - 2013.02.14 06:50:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:chatgris wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:Caldari and Amarr mentioned these problems months ago. But we were just 'making it up' and 'whingers'. Now that the shoe is on the other foot - I hope it fits.  The lols Caldari are getting from watching the whole situation reversed is worth it. But don't worry - CCP are gonna 'save you' when the patch comes. There was a suspicious/hint tweet a day or two ago that suggests Caldari will be stopped with a patch. Few questions a) Gallente are whining about the system? I'm arguing with Cearin that the current system is GOOD, even though we're losing b) What tweet? Source pls! Caldari were being called whingers a while back and now are hearing the same complaints from many Gallente. You have never complained. I was not aiming that comment at you. I quoted the person it was aimed at. The tweet said: Tough times for the Minmatar Republic....http://www.gamerchick.net/2013/02/we-all-fall-down.html GǪ Save us, @CCP_Fozzie ! We're not done with FW yet! #tweetfleet #eveonline 'We're not done with FW yet!' is what interested me - I've seen these types of things tweeted /posted right before other changes are announced/made. It's like 'Oh Brutix change won't help it active tank - What will we do Fozzie???' Right before armor buff announcement. In the past, seeing comments like that from a certain person has been a fairly accurate gauge of a change coming that they can't yet talk about. So - Repeated behavior of certain people is how I drew that conclusion. Maybe I'm having a bit of a tin foil hat moment but guess we will find out soon enough. If I'm wrong - i have a tin foil hat for sale or swap for 1xCarrier.
ROFL ... did she really wrote this?
Quote:"It is our belief that the sudden fall of the warzone, and our inability to come back to where we once stood so easily, is sure indication that the mechanics are broken. We can't fight because we can't make money, and the pressure of the winner snowballs out of our control. The proof is irrefutable." said one Minmatar official working on the document, who asked to remain anonymous.
OMG I am really laughing like hell 
On serious note it looks like massive TROLLAGE :) |
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